from the efloortrade google searches it appears efloortrade has gone to great lengths and has been granted an ex/parte injunction (chillingeffects.org) to remove what they claim are defamatory or slanderous internet posts. This is a method some attorneys use to remove posts for there guilty clients. This can keep the public ignorant and expose them to possible criminal activity. (Ex/parte) means the injunction was granted without giving the defendants any chance to prove what they say is true. From the research it looks like efloortrade has a tendency to be directly or indirectly involved with criminal activities. If i was efloortrade or John Moore i would need to cover my butt with a cease and desist injunction too. Criminals get way too much protection from our civil and criminal justice system.
People who post that they've had winning trades using CTI systems are fools and most likely work for CTI. If they were winning systems they would not sell them. I could sell you a system that randomly creates a trade and it will show a profit month after month for a short period of time, just the same as I could flip heads 5 times in a row with a coin. I'll also guarantee my system knowing that most people will rarely try and collect on it and those that do are going to have a helluva a time trying to get their refund.
These guys have called me at least monthly for at least two years now. I tried being nice over and over. I asked to be removed from their call list. No luck. Now I let them waste their time talking to me and when I feel that I've taken enough of their time I get very rude. I feeeeel gooood.
I beg to differ, I have tried about 11 trading systems in my life and I understand how hard it is to find one that actually works. Some of the people that post here are simply sick of getting calls while others are actually looking for the truth on these systems and how they perform. I am posting my results for any and all who seek that truth. Futhermore, . .everything I have posted here is 3rd party verifiable. So even if I did work for the company, . . Im still telling the truth and posting accurate performance results which is the botom line.
FACT: CTI used to be called Cooper Trading, Luxman Trading and Black Box Experiment or Black Box 2 Trade.
FACT: They owe clients over 1.5 million in unpaid refunds.
FACT: The owner is a convicted felon who did time in Federal Prison for securities fraud, which they fail to disclose to potential clients.
FACT: They are currently under investigation and a class action lawsuit is pending.
FACT: I know of two physical locations and the REAL names of the principals. Steve Symons and Kevin Symons. They tell you CTI stands for the names of the owners kids. Laughable!
There office is at 3990 Westerly in Newport Beach, CA.
FACT: go to www.rippoffreport.com, www.complaintsboard.com and the Better Business Bureau and type in luxman trading. You will find numerous complaints from actual clients that lost money.
FACT: There ARE a few legitimate and reputable companies out there that offer automated trading systems that work well. Do your homework before you invest. Look for longevity and performance.
Google cti autofutures trading and see what you find!
I certainly hope you know what you are talking about. If all of this is true than that is pretty scary. Thus far I have had a profitable experience with this firm, thats all I can say. whether or not they used to be some other company, . . . I have no idea. But to their credit, they have made me more money than any of my other investments in the same time frame. Its for that reason that I must question the validity of your statemens, but I do not discount them entirely.