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LAMET  

May 19, 2010

if MAX GREEN had a heavy accent - it is THIS SCAM - not real debt collectors at all. 

PROTECT YOURSELF!  IMPORTANT INFORMATION YOU MUST READ – HOW THE SCAM WORKS AND WHAT AGENCIES TO REPORT THEM TO 

LONG RUNNING AND KNOWN SCAM – ALL OVER INTERNET AND NEWS FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS NOW 

Fake Debt Collectors – Terrorizing Consumers 

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1

MORE ON FAKE DEBT COLLECTORS 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html

http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html   latest release of information on this scam

http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm

Attorney General Darrell McGraw took the extraordinary step today of warning the public about a band of scam artists making threats to consumers who allegedly obtained Internet payday loans in West Virginia and across the nation. The consumers they threaten never obtained a loan at all or paid it off years ago.

Internet payday loans are short-term loans or cash advances, usually for 14 days, made over the Internet via interactive web sites and secured by an agreement authorizing debits of the loan and all fees owed from the consumer’s checking account. These loans typically charge interest rates ranging from 600-800 APR and are unlawful in West Virginia. 

The scam artists, who speak English with a foreign accent, call themselves “U.S. National Bank,” “Federal Investigation Bureau,” “United Legal Processing” and numerous other phony names. They refuse to disclose real names and addresses and are believed to be operating “off the grid” from homes, automobiles, or from off shore locations or foreign countries, including India. Since the scammers have kept themselves purposely well hidden, thus far no law enforcement agencies have succeeded in locating or shutting them down.

The scammers typically pose as law enforcement officers, investigators, lawyers, and bankers and threaten consumers that they will be arrested for “bank fraud” or other fictitious crimes unless money is wired immediately. They simultaneously scare and confuse consumers by using meaningless legalese gobbledygook phrases such as, “We are downloading warrants against you” or “We are filing an affidavit against you.” Consumers who don’t immediately fall for the scam are warned, “Only God can help you now.” 

The scammers almost always call consumers at work several times a day, and tell their supervisors, “Your employee has committed fraud and is about to be arrested.” Such threats have proven unsettling even to the most savvy consumers and employers who suspect the calls are fraudulent. 

Attorney General McGraw stated, “Ordinarily my office protects consumers from fraudulent activities by seeking injunctions in court. But legal action cannot be taken until the scam artists can be located. Even then, it is unlikely that the persons behind the fraudulent calls and extortionist threats would obey a court order. In this case, the consumer’s best defense is to be armed with the knowledge of the scam so that all demands for money can be resisted, despite the false but scarey threats of arrest.”

McGraw added, “Because the fraudsters make a special point of calling consumers repeatedly at work, employers must understand that the consumers are innocent victims of a criminal enterprise and cannot stop the calls from coming. I also wish to assure the citizens of West Virginia that my office will continue to do everything possible to locate and shut down the outlaw debt collectors.” 

More information about this fraudulent debt collection scheme is available at the Attorney General’s website, www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam. Any consumers who have been threatened by these persons or wish to file a complaint about another consumer matter may do so by calling the Consumer Protection Hot Line, 1-800-368-8808, or by obtaining a complaint form from the Attorney General’s web site.

It's a debt collection scam. And all their threats are false and illegal.

This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."

Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.

The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)

The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India: 

IntellisOurzE BPO

701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,

C.G. Road Navrangpura,

Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.

E-Mail: [email protected]

Website: www.intellisourze.com 

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM

Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.

Email:  [email protected]   

908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank

Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway

Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054

Tel. +91.7926871353

Creation Date: 08-May-2008

Expiration Date: 08-May-2009

Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com

(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone): 

1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.

3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov

5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-954-678-9724

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-610-571-3252

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-499-9983 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-771-9249   Scammer posting here as GARY and GARRY JONES 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-860-4509   Scammer posting here as Mike Henderson

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-500-0839   Scammer posting here as Ricky 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-201-244-7722   Scammer posting as Carole, David Brown and Amanda

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-626-200-4646   Scammer placing false postings at this new number as silshan kanniue and Tina – preparing a new number to use.

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-424-354-4270   Scammer placing false postings as Rose

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-785-4479   Scammer posting as Robert 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-909-327-4870   Scammer placing false postings as Marry 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-274-1143   Scammer placing false postings as Karen Miller 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-561-300-8018   Scammer placing false postings as Marco Polo (real original)

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-226-7488   Scammer placing false postings as SAM, David S

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-706-7463   Scammer placing false postings as George 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-209-349-7382   Scammer placing false postings as Towanda Robinson, Shannon Walsh, Jack Dawson and Cynthia 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-760-514-0132   scammer placing false postings as Suzy01, Johanna Hall, Cindie McMellon, Michael Dublin, Mark Williams, Carol and Rio  

Scam alert: Bogus debt collectors

By Leslie McFadden • Bankrate.com

Monday, Aug. 3

Posted 2 p.m.

Bankrate reporter Leslie McFadden contributed this entry.

This scam isn't technically about credit cards, but it is scary enough to post a warning. The Better Business Bureau issued an alert today saying consumers across the country are getting phone calls from bogus debt collectors claiming default on a payday loan. Of course, the consumer needs to pay a large fee to avoid arrest -- as much as $1,000.

The caller poses as a lawyer, and may threaten extradition to face trial if the consumer doesn't pay up immediately.

What makes these calls alarming -- and perhaps convincing -- is that the perpetrators reference the consumer's personal information, such as the person's Social Security number, driver's license number, previous bank account numbers, home address -- even personal references.

"The amount of information they have is really troubling," says BBB spokeswoman Alison Southwick. She adds that the amount of data points to a possible security breach.

Spread the word to your friends and family: Don't give out personal or financial information to an unknown caller. Scammers can spoof Caller ID to display different numbers, so trust your instincts over technology.

The BBB offers these tips:

•    Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation which substantiates the debt. 

•    Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the phone until you have confirmed the legitimacy of the call. 

•    File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission online if the caller is abusive, uses threats or otherwise violates federal telemarketing laws or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. 

•    File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau online if you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you.
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This person called me on my job phone and said fu___ me.  He claimed at first to be someone calling in reference to a bill I owe.  I asked him to stop calling my job.  When I tried to call back, the recording said the number was not working.  This person called me from (206) 855-5260.  He claimed his name was Max Green.  Everytime I ask the name of the company, whoever answers transfers me to this Max Green.  If I could get my hand around his neck, I would probably choke him because he then told me to fu___ my mother when I called him back.  Very rude and harrassing.
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LAMET  

May 19, 2010

if MAX GREEN had a heavy accent - it is THIS SCAM - not real debt collectors at all. 

PROTECT YOURSELF!  IMPORTANT INFORMATION YOU MUST READ – HOW THE SCAM WORKS AND WHAT AGENCIES TO REPORT THEM TO 

LONG RUNNING AND KNOWN SCAM – ALL OVER INTERNET AND NEWS FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS NOW 

Fake Debt Collectors – Terrorizing Consumers 

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1

MORE ON FAKE DEBT COLLECTORS 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html

http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html   latest release of information on this scam

http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm

Attorney General Darrell McGraw took the extraordinary step today of warning the public about a band of scam artists making threats to consumers who allegedly obtained Internet payday loans in West Virginia and across the nation. The consumers they threaten never obtained a loan at all or paid it off years ago.

Internet payday loans are short-term loans or cash advances, usually for 14 days, made over the Internet via interactive web sites and secured by an agreement authorizing debits of the loan and all fees owed from the consumer’s checking account. These loans typically charge interest rates ranging from 600-800 APR and are unlawful in West Virginia. 

The scam artists, who speak English with a foreign accent, call themselves “U.S. National Bank,” “Federal Investigation Bureau,” “United Legal Processing” and numerous other phony names. They refuse to disclose real names and addresses and are believed to be operating “off the grid” from homes, automobiles, or from off shore locations or foreign countries, including India. Since the scammers have kept themselves purposely well hidden, thus far no law enforcement agencies have succeeded in locating or shutting them down.

The scammers typically pose as law enforcement officers, investigators, lawyers, and bankers and threaten consumers that they will be arrested for “bank fraud” or other fictitious crimes unless money is wired immediately. They simultaneously scare and confuse consumers by using meaningless legalese gobbledygook phrases such as, “We are downloading warrants against you” or “We are filing an affidavit against you.” Consumers who don’t immediately fall for the scam are warned, “Only God can help you now.” 

The scammers almost always call consumers at work several times a day, and tell their supervisors, “Your employee has committed fraud and is about to be arrested.” Such threats have proven unsettling even to the most savvy consumers and employers who suspect the calls are fraudulent. 

Attorney General McGraw stated, “Ordinarily my office protects consumers from fraudulent activities by seeking injunctions in court. But legal action cannot be taken until the scam artists can be located. Even then, it is unlikely that the persons behind the fraudulent calls and extortionist threats would obey a court order. In this case, the consumer’s best defense is to be armed with the knowledge of the scam so that all demands for money can be resisted, despite the false but scarey threats of arrest.”

McGraw added, “Because the fraudsters make a special point of calling consumers repeatedly at work, employers must understand that the consumers are innocent victims of a criminal enterprise and cannot stop the calls from coming. I also wish to assure the citizens of West Virginia that my office will continue to do everything possible to locate and shut down the outlaw debt collectors.” 

More information about this fraudulent debt collection scheme is available at the Attorney General’s website, www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam. Any consumers who have been threatened by these persons or wish to file a complaint about another consumer matter may do so by calling the Consumer Protection Hot Line, 1-800-368-8808, or by obtaining a complaint form from the Attorney General’s web site.

It's a debt collection scam. And all their threats are false and illegal.

This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."

Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.

The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)

The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India: 

IntellisOurzE BPO

701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,

C.G. Road Navrangpura,

Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.

E-Mail: [email protected]

Website: www.intellisourze.com 

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM

Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.

Email:  [email protected]   

908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank

Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway

Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054

Tel. +91.7926871353

Creation Date: 08-May-2008

Expiration Date: 08-May-2009

Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com

(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone): 

1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.

3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov

5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-954-678-9724

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-610-571-3252

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-499-9983 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-771-9249   Scammer posting here as GARY and GARRY JONES 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-860-4509   Scammer posting here as Mike Henderson

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-500-0839   Scammer posting here as Ricky 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-201-244-7722   Scammer posting as Carole, David Brown and Amanda

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-626-200-4646   Scammer placing false postings at this new number as silshan kanniue and Tina – preparing a new number to use.

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-424-354-4270   Scammer placing false postings as Rose

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-785-4479   Scammer posting as Robert 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-909-327-4870   Scammer placing false postings as Marry 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-274-1143   Scammer placing false postings as Karen Miller 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-561-300-8018   Scammer placing false postings as Marco Polo (real original)

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-226-7488   Scammer placing false postings as SAM, David S

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-706-7463   Scammer placing false postings as George 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-209-349-7382   Scammer placing false postings as Towanda Robinson, Shannon Walsh, Jack Dawson and Cynthia 

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-760-514-0132   scammer placing false postings as Suzy01, Johanna Hall, Cindie McMellon, Michael Dublin, Mark Williams, Carol and Rio  

Scam alert: Bogus debt collectors

By Leslie McFadden • Bankrate.com

Monday, Aug. 3

Posted 2 p.m.

Bankrate reporter Leslie McFadden contributed this entry.

This scam isn't technically about credit cards, but it is scary enough to post a warning. The Better Business Bureau issued an alert today saying consumers across the country are getting phone calls from bogus debt collectors claiming default on a payday loan. Of course, the consumer needs to pay a large fee to avoid arrest -- as much as $1,000.

The caller poses as a lawyer, and may threaten extradition to face trial if the consumer doesn't pay up immediately.

What makes these calls alarming -- and perhaps convincing -- is that the perpetrators reference the consumer's personal information, such as the person's Social Security number, driver's license number, previous bank account numbers, home address -- even personal references.

"The amount of information they have is really troubling," says BBB spokeswoman Alison Southwick. She adds that the amount of data points to a possible security breach.

Spread the word to your friends and family: Don't give out personal or financial information to an unknown caller. Scammers can spoof Caller ID to display different numbers, so trust your instincts over technology.

The BBB offers these tips:

•    Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation which substantiates the debt. 

•    Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the phone until you have confirmed the legitimacy of the call. 

•    File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission online if the caller is abusive, uses threats or otherwise violates federal telemarketing laws or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. 

•    File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau online if you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you.
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Deborah Christian  

May 19, 2010

This person called me on my job phone and said fu___ me.  He claimed at first to be someone calling in reference to a bill I owe.  I asked him to stop calling my job.  When I tried to call back, the recording said the number was not working.  This person called me from (206) 855-5260.  He claimed his name was Max Green.  Everytime I ask the name of the company, whoever answers transfers me to this Max Green.  If I could get my hand around his neck, I would probably choke him because he then told me to fu___ my mother when I called him back.  Very rude and harrassing.
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lamet  

May 19, 2010

THE CORRECT WAY TO HANDLE COLLECTION CALLS AND ILLEGAL TACTICS 

HANDLE IT CORRECTLY AND THEY WILL END UP PAYING YOU

READ DEALING WITH DEBT COLLECTORS, RECORDING CALLS AND STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS BY STATE

You  can also post your questions here http://www.collectorsexposed.com/forum2/index.php

These links are to attorneys for those being scammed www.naca.net or http://www.consumerjustice.com/consumer/searchattorneys.aspx

Debt Collectors DO NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION!    

The INFORMED CONSUMER IS THE DEBT COLLECTORS WORST ENEMY!

Dealing with Debt Collectors 

Http://www.budhibbs.com/First.htm    

Statute of Limitations by State – always double check YOUR OWN STATE Government Website 

http://www.budhibbs.com/statute_of_limitations.htm

Recording calls from Debt Collectors - always double check YOUR OWN STATE Government Website

http://www.budhibbs.com/record.htm

From Federal Trade Commission Website – FAIR DEBT COLLECTION PRACTICES ACT 

Debt Collection FAQs: A Guide for Consumers

If you’re behind in paying your bills, or a creditor’s records mistakenly make it appear that you are, a debt collector may be contacting you. 

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation’s consumer protection agency, enforces the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA), which prohibits debt collectors from using abusive, unfair, or deceptive practices to collect from you.

Under the FDCPA, a debt collector is someone who regularly collects debts owed to others. This includes collection agencies, lawyers who collect debts on a regular basis, and companies that buy delinquent debts and then try to collect them.

Here are some questions and answers about your rights under the Act.

What types of debts are covered?

The Act covers personal, family, and household debts, including money you owe on a personal credit card account, an auto loan, a medical bill, and your mortgage. The FDCPA doesn’t cover debts you incurred to run a business.

Can a debt collector contact me any time or any place? 

No. A debt collector may not contact you at inconvenient times or places, such as before 8 in the morning or after 9 at night, unless you agree to it. And collectors may not contact you at work if they’re told (orally or in writing) that you’re not allowed to get calls there.

How can I stop a debt collector from contacting me?

If a collector contacts you about a debt, you may want to talk to them at least once to see if you can resolve the matter – even if you don’t think you owe the debt, can’t repay it immediately, or think that the collector is contacting you by mistake. If you decide after contacting the debt collector that you don’t want the collector to contact you again, tell the collector – in writing – to stop contacting you. Here’s how to do that:

Make a copy of your letter. Send the original by certified mail, and pay for a “return receipt” so you’ll be able to document what the collector received. Once the collector receives your letter, they may not contact you again, with two exceptions: a collector can contact you to tell you there will be no further contact or to let you know that they or the creditor intend to take a specific action, like filing a lawsuit. Sending such a letter to a debt collector you owe money to does not get rid of the debt, but it should stop the contact. The creditor or the debt collector still can sue you to collect the debt. 

Can a debt collector contact anyone else about my debt?

If an attorney is representing you about the debt, the debt collector must contact the attorney, rather than you. If you don’t have an attorney, a collector may contact other people – but only to find out your address, your home phone number, and where you work. Collectors usually are prohibited from contacting third parties more than once. Other than to obtain this location information about you, a debt collector generally is not permitted to discuss your debt with anyone other than you, your spouse, or your attorney.

What does the debt collector have to tell me about the debt? 

Every collector must send you a written “validation notice” telling you how much money you owe within five days after they first contact you. This notice also must include the name of the creditor to whom you owe the money, and how to proceed if you don’t think you owe the money. 

Can a debt collector keep contacting me if I don’t think I owe any money? 

If you send the debt collector a letter stating that you don’t owe any or all of the money, or asking for verification of the debt, that collector must stop contacting you. You have to send that letter within 30 days after you receive the validation notice. But a collector can begin contacting you again if it sends you written verification of the debt, like a copy of a bill for the amount you owe.

What practices are off limits for debt collectors?

Harassment. Debt collectors may not harass, oppress, or abuse you or any third parties they contact. For example, they may not:

use threats of violence or harm; 

publish a list of names of people who refuse to pay their debts (but they can give this information to the credit reporting companies); 

use obscene or profane language; or 

repeatedly use the phone to annoy someone. 

False statements. Debt collectors may not lie when they are trying to collect a debt. For example, they may not:

falsely claim that they are attorneys or government representatives; 

falsely claim that you have committed a crime; 

falsely represent that they operate or work for a credit reporting company; 

misrepresent the amount you owe; 

indicate that papers they send you are legal forms if they aren’t; or 

indicate that papers they send to you aren’t legal forms if they are. 

Debt collectors also are prohibited from saying that:

you will be arrested if you don’t pay your debt; 

they’ll seize, garnish, attach, or sell your property or wages unless they are permitted by law to take the action and intend to do so; or 

legal action will be taken against you, if doing so would be illegal or if they don’t intend to take the action. 

Debt collectors may not:

give false credit information about you to anyone, including a credit reporting company; 

send you anything that looks like an official document from a court or government agency if it isn’t; or 

use a false company name. 

Unfair practices. Debt collectors may not engage in unfair practices when they try to collect a debt. For example, they may not:

try to collect any interest, fee, or other charge on top of the amount you owe unless the contract that created your debt – or your state law – allows the charge; 

deposit a post-dated check early; 

take or threaten to take your property unless it can be done legally; or 

contact you by postcard. 

Can I control which debts my payments apply to? 

Yes. If a debt collector is trying to collect more than one debt from you, the collector must apply any payment you make to the debt you select. Equally important, a debt collector may not apply a payment to a debt you don’t think you owe.

Can a debt collector garnish my bank account or my wages?

If you don’t pay a debt, a creditor or its debt collector generally can sue you to collect. If they win, the court will enter a judgment against you. The judgment states the amount of money you owe, and allows the creditor or collector to get a garnishment order against you, directing a third party, like your bank, to turn over funds from your account to pay the debt. 

Wage garnishment happens when your employer withholds part of your compensation to pay your debts. Your wages usually can be garnished only as the result of a court order. Don’t ignore a lawsuit summons. If you do, you lose the opportunity to fight a wage garnishment.

Can federal benefits be garnished?

Many federal benefits are exempt from garnishment, including: 

Social Security Benefits 

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) Benefits 

Veterans’ Benefits 

Civil Service and Federal Retirement and Disability Benefits 

Service Members’ Pay 

Military Annuities and Survivors’ Benefits 

Student Assistance 

Railroad Retirement Benefits 

Merchant Seamen Wages 

Longshoremen’s and Harbor Workers’ Death and Disability Benefits 

Foreign Service Retirement and Disability Benefits 

Compensation for Injury, Death, or Detention of Employees of U.S. Contractors Outside the U.S. 

Federal Emergency Management Agency Federal Disaster Assistance 

But federal benefits may be garnished under certain circumstances, including to pay delinquent taxes, alimony, child support, or student loans. 

Do I have any recourse if I think a debt collector has violated the law? 

You have the right to sue a collector in a state or federal court within one year from the date the law was violated. If you win, the judge can require the collector to pay you for any damages you can prove you suffered because of the illegal collection practices, like lost wages and medical bills. The judge can require the debt collector to pay you up to $1,000, even if you can’t prove that you suffered actual damages. You also can be reimbursed for your attorney’s fees and court costs. A group of people also may sue a debt collector as part of a class action lawsuit and recover money for damages up to $500,000, or one percent of the collector’s net worth, whichever amount is lower. Even if a debt collector violates the FDCPA in trying to collect a debt, the debt does not go away if you owe it.

What should I do if a debt collector sues me?

If a debt collector files a lawsuit against you to collect a debt, respond to the lawsuit, either personally or through your lawyer, by the date specified in the court papers to preserve your rights. 

Where do I report a debt collector for an alleged violation?

Report any problems you have with a debt collector to your state Attorney General’s office (www.naag.org) and the Federal Trade Commission (www.ftc.gov). Many states have their own debt collection laws that are different from the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Your Attorney General’s office can help you determine your rights under your state’s law.

For More Information

To learn more about debt collection and other credit-related issues, visit www.ftc.gov/credit and MyMoney.gov, the U.S. government’s portal to financial education.

The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop, and avoid them. To file a complaint or to get free information on consumer issues, visit ftc.gov or call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357); TTY: 1-866-653-4261. The FTC enters consumer complaints into the Consumer Sentinel Network, a secure online database and investigative tool used by hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad 

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File complaints with 

Federal Trade Commission  https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

Your State Attorney General 

State Attorney General is every state they have offices 

Link to all State Attorney General Websites www.naag.org

If you or they are located in NY – use this SPECIAL Link  www.NYDebtHelp.com

This special website was created by NY AG Andrew Cuomo specifically for reporting illegal debt collection practices.  HE’S CRACKING DOWN AND SHUTTING THEM DOWN!

Also report your calls and contacts with debt collectors at http://www.budhibbs.com/index.html  If the company is listed under agencies – report there. If not on the list YET, click on Watchlist! and add to the list.   You can also post here http://www.collectorsexposed.com/forum2/index.php?board=2.0
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