This makes total number of attempts at least twice that I am aware of..and all I can say is that my own Lovely and artsy son TRAVEL s adventure took him that ares few times. .most recently winter of 2009...& then his memory is marred by the sobriety HE so very much needed was illusive at times and few months later on Good Friday of 2009..he would ultimately be OFF ed by members of the Crypts FOR 200 $
.ain't life grand..now. my only solace is known in my heart and soul that the Lord gave him Grace AND mercy through Salvation. .so Praise God and teach your children well FOR WE as individuals know not when we may die..Amen.