DMP are scum as well, though they are legit. I hated dealing with them, because it was always the same lady picking up the phone and I never spoke with anyone else. And she gave me horrible attitude when I talked about the other scammers out there claiming to collect on my debt to Cash Net USA. It was so annoying. She would say she would look into the matter and call me back but never did. I paid Cash Net USA the amount owed without knowing they had sold it to DMP. When I talk to DMP they said they never received the payment from Cash Net USA. Cash Net USA would just tell me they did send payment. It was incredibly annoying. So over the course of 6 months I had scammers trying to collect and threatening me with arrest and court papers (blah blah blah)... then finally DMP admitted they had received payment 6 months earlier from Cash Net USA. When I began to complain to the lady from DMP, she hung up on me. I was so pissed. Being given the run around, having my debt supposedly sold to other third parties, worse of all Cash Net USA never notified me about my debt being sold to DMP til the first fake scammer collector called "Rachel Jonathon" from Cash Partners of America (but they sound like middle easter with double american names like "david allen", "Michael James"...). Which makes me even more mad, because of how I mailed payment to Cash Net USA and they didn't send it back to me, they forwarded it and caused a huge headache for me.
I still check up on these postings to see what new scams are there and what new methods (false collection company names they are using)... So spread the word. Don't let someone you know fall for these tactics.
Anyone get a call from this number yet? Here's my story: I had a long delinquent payday loan from CASHNET USA. I finally got the money together to pay the loan, so I called them and they told me the loan had been sold to DMP (Debt Management Partners) at 1-800-883-9067 (http://www.dmpllc.biz/). So I called them because I want to get this matter settled. BUT...nobody ever answers! Only voice mail! So I left a message. I got a voice mail back...but not from DMP, but from "VASPIAN" at the number above: 1-716-923-7493. I know it was about my voice mail to DMP because they mentioned it directly. It was just a message to get back to them if I still wanted to get in contact with them.
All this contacting one company, but getting called back from another is quite confusing me at times.
I do know the VASPIAN # is a land line; I looked it up on whitepages.com.
Should I pursue this? From what I understand, if a third party buys your debt, you still owe. I looked it up several times, but this all seems very fishy. It just doesn't smell right.
I did some more digging, and I think VASPIAN is just the caller's VoIP provider. The caller is still from DMP, but I also found this from ripoffreport.com...
"This happened around June of this year 2009:
Cashnetusa sold debt to DPM, (Debt Management Partners, Daniel Valentine 716-870-7179)
(Principle) passes off the (victim) to:
American Customized Network (This is now Wire Fraud using Public Communications to defraud the public). ACN promises to confirm satisfaction of the collection debt, takes your Bank Account Info collects the debt and you never hear from ACN again. They vanish. They are committing wire fraud. Daniel Valentine is associated with ACN. He is knowingly associating with fraud, wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud. I have the Bank Debits dated and verified with the name of ACN to satisfy the collection. They never confirm the satisfied debt, as they have no intention do so and continue to openly and flagrantly commit wire fraud. DPM is also engaged in the same fraud by association.
I am now again told that I am being sued for this debt, which has already been paid? I have called Cahsnetusa and confirmed that Daniel Valentine is the principle of DPM, which purchased this debt from them. They did try to communicate with urgency to Daniel Valentine the necessity of fulfilling the promise that he made to 'Confirm The Satisfaction of Payment of this Debt'. He made a contract verbally over the phone and does not deny doing so. He clearly stated before transferring me to the criminals at ACN that he would guarantee the 'Confirmation of The Satisfaction of Payment of this Debt'. He has never done so. I believe he is associating with criminals and can be as guilty as they are by association. In any case the use of public communications to defraud the public is a serious crime."
cashnetusa sold my account without ever telling me. i was delinquent on the payday loan. I mailed them a money order in the amount of 315.00 on October 29, 2010. At that time I didn't know my account had been sold. On November 12, 2010 I get a call saying I owe an extraordinary amount (5,084.00) from a place called LLC Law Office. They claimed I was going to be arrested unless I paid the amount of 1200.00 over the phone immediately. These people spoke with strong middle-eastern accents.
This freaked me out, so I called CashnetUSA. When I spoke to them, they told me they sold my account to DMP (Debt Management Partners @ 800-883-9067). I asked about this LLC Law Office, and they said they know nothing of it, possibly a scam. They also confirmed recieving my payment about Nov 2 or 3, 2010. They said they had forwarded it to DMP.
I call DMP, they said they only buy debts and match them with collection agencies. They said, they themselves were not a collection agency. I told them CashNetUSA got my payment and forwarded it to them. They said to contact Jacobson & Associates (877-423-6009), because they were in charge of collecting my delinquent debt. So I called them (I hated getting the run around), I told them the situation. They said they never recieved any funds.... They told me to wait, that the funds may get to them and they will confirm it with me by calling back.
I never hear from them for a month, I get another call and they say I still owe. I call CashNetUSA, DMP again and I get the run around. CashNet says they sent it to DMP, DMP says that if they did receive anything it would have been forwarded to Jacobson & Associates. Jacobson & Associates again tells me to wait... Never hear from them again.
No end of December, I get a voicemail saying I still owe them. And we discuss this situation again.... very frustrating, I go through DMP and CashNet again, they are no help...
[by the way, I still have the money order reciept I sent to CashNetUSA on October 29, it has been confirmed that CashNetUSA cashed it!!]
By this point, Jacobson & Associates are telling me they are proceeding the fresno county courts and going through civil proceedings unless I pay them 200.00 right then. I explain again, that I already paid CashNetUSA. DMP or Jacobson & Associates are not being honest with me, pulling my chain [and of course that bullcrap from LLC Law Office was fake scammers]. I said fine....
I get another call later in January around the 20th, from Jacobson & Associates again, same run around... they said they will call me back the next day, never heard from them....
All of a sudden (May 9, 2011) I get a voice mail from NCW [claims to be national credit works: 855-286-1918 ext 117] about this debt from CashNetUSA.... tired of it, I get in contact with CashNetUSA, they again confirm with me they forwarded it to DMP... I say what can I do? They finally offer me confirmation through EMAIL that it was processed to DMP... before when I asked, they said they sold the debt and had no liability with the debt since it was sold off.... BUT at least this time I got an EMAIL... I called DMP to follow up and NOW they say "Oh yeah, the computer shows we did receive it from CashNetUSA" [I am just so pissed, because all the times prior they say they got nothing], so i ask them when they got it... lady says"we got it sometime in November", makes me even angrier!!! They also tell me that a company named Northern Resolutions Group is in charge of my debt now
I ask, what happened to Jacobson & Associates, she has no answer... just says that Northern Resolutions Group is in charge of it but doesn't give me a number... says she will call me in a week, I'm sure she wont... I will have to call her... so lets see what happens on the 16th when i call... come see what i post...
makes me wonder why NCW calls me when she says Northern Resolutions Groups in charge of collecting this supposed debt... piss me off!
so I called DMP... I told them about NCW... told them about the harrassing calls and threats, informed them about my intentions in acquiring an attorney... she became upset and said, "there is no need for an attorney over a debt that is just 315.00"... I replied, "but they are harassing me and threatening to sue me"... she responds, "tell them, yea, go ahead"... [now i'm wondering what the heck]... she is becoming agitated by me... and it's upsetting me too... she is like protecting this scam of a collection company...again karen (with DMP) is angry with me, having an attitude... says she will call me, but she didn't even call me this last week like she said... she just ignores me... and i have to call her
NCW is a scam... DMP, told me Northern Resolutions Group was in charge of my account, when I told her about NCW she goes.. "oh, they are an affiliate"... OKAY... why didn't she tell me that last monday when I called???
Karen is a piece of [***] person, who seems like she is on this scam.. because she again confirmed recieving my payment to settle this account... but NCW or Northern Resolutions Group never knew about it... DMP wont send me a letter or email confirming that they got the payment from the original loan company CashNetUSA... I paid CashNetUSA prior to knowing that my account had been sold off... frustrating... you think I would get a letter to inform me about this or an email... not just have my account sold off after the fact and I get these harrassing phonecalls on my cell and at work...
such bull-[***]
phone numbers for these scammers-
DMP: (800)883-9067; (716)923-7493
NCW: (855)286-1918; (716)989-0820
Northern Resolution Group: (877)290-0016 [this number DMP finally gave to me, last time we spoke she wouldn't even give it to me??which is weird... HELLO, you gave my account to them but wont give me contact info...]