Barnum Graham and Associates scam. No idea at present where they are located. Threats. Callers impersonate attorneys. Want call backs from you or your attorney, advises you that if you don’t call back you “waive your rights” and other typical debt scammer nonsense. Ignore and block any calls from this group. May be another manifestation of the “govern yourself accordingly” scam. Just don’t know as the present.
Numbers #
317-758-8992
317-203-0668
317-207-6835
317-210-8138
317-210-9971
317-747-0029
317-747-0064
765-201-4528
765-201-4259
765-201-4376
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In any event,
Just because someone on the phone calling you says you owe a debt does not mean you actually owe it.
If a voice on the telephone claims you owe a debt:
1. Demand the person give you his or her name, company name, and address
2. Demand a debt validation letter by US mail. E-mail no good.
3. Do not pay the collection agent or anyone else a dime until the debt is validated
Of course they won’t do this, no scammer ever will, so simply ignore them and block their calls.
If they are bothering you, report them:
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0149-debt-collection (Threatening civil proceedings with no intent to follow through, or threatening criminal process in order to collect a civil debt is a violation of the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.) The same goes for endless telephone harassment
Note that the US Supreme Court in the Case of HENSON ET AL. v. SANTANDER CONSUMER USA INC., has recently ruled that the provisions of the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act do not apply if the creditor owns the debt in question. As a practical matter this probably won't effect the kinds of scam debt collectors who often show up on 800notes. The scam collectors don't give you any information about themselves so it is impossible to know whether or not they in fact "own" the debt in question. Most do not send debt validation letters and many often say they are collecting for someone else. So, make the complaint anyway if they are bothering you. Let the FTC sort it out.
Also contact your local attorney general
If they continue to bother you, and you know you do not owe any money, tell them that you know this is a debt scam and that you are making a complaint to the police for extortion. Once you get a copy of the police report and they call you again , just read out the file number and the name of the PD or Sheriff’s office involved. Tell them you’ll be glad to send a copy to them at whatever address the jack***es are working out of now.
You'll probably have to yell at them and talk over them. Tell 'em no scammy debt collector is going to push you around.
You have to get tuff with these people because, being akin to thugs, brute force is (metaphorically speaking). the only thing they understand.
Caller uses a muffled voice to leave message about filing papers against you if you do not return their call. Doesn't ask for any particular person to call. Sounds like a scam
They have called and harassed me twice saying my license is going to be revoked and that I need an attorney. I called the BBB and they believe it to be a huge scam! You can file a local police report, call the state attorney general and the general trade to report them. When I asked for more information the lady hung up on me. I know that I don't have any outstanding bills from 8 years ago!
I received the same call. They said that they were going to put a warrant at suspend my license and take me to court and send an affidavit to to arrest me
They are going to send a piece of paper to arrest you? That should be interesting. Obviously they have no concept of civil lawm although my guess would be they probably have intimate knowledge of criminal law because of the many times they have been arrested. I'd also like to know how one puts out a "warrant" for a license suspension. Read CWG40's post.