And here's MORE info about these numbers!
There are complaints about them all over the internet for harassing people that do not owe the debt, threatening to arrest people for a debt, telling people the only way they'll stop calling is to pay "court costs" on an alleged suit they filed, etc. According to some of the MANY complaint pages and numbers they've called using, it seems they call about debts that are 5-10 years old, don't care if they were paid or not because they want money. There are people who have fallen for this, and stated that they paid, and are STILL waiting on getting the documentation of the debt from them. Of course, their story is that they sent it out ... yeah, right.
What's laughable is one page on their website that says they follow the law during collection attempts. OBVIOUSLY, NOT! THEY have an F rating with the FL BBB (see below).
By the way, it would seem to me that, IF you had a bad debt, it would show on your credit report (if still eligible to be reported). IF you do have a bad debt on your credit report, you might want to consult an attorney and/or the original creditor, rather than these folks who obviously could care less about the law. [I am NOT an attorney, nor do I profess to be one. I am NOT dispensing “legal advice,” simply giving my opinion!]
IF they were calling about a legitimate debt, they would NOT be calling to see if you'll be home all day on certain day to "deliver legal documents" or "subpeona." A legit collector CANNOT discuss your bill with anyone else OR threaten to arrest you and/or send you to debtor's prison, etc.
Make yourself aware of the rules in the FAIR DEBT COLLECTION PRACTICES ACT.--http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.shtm
Here is more info on it from the FTC Consumer information -- http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0149-debt-collection
It's glaringly apparent that these folks enjoy breaking most of these rules.
Hope this helps someone!
As well as filing a complaint with your State Attorney General and the FTC, you can also file complaints in Florida.
Here is the Florida Office of Financial Regulation's complaint info page:
http://www.flofr.com/StaticPages/FileAComplaint.htm
(Florida) Bureau of Financial Investigations
http://www.flofr.com/StaticPages/BureauOfFinancialInvestigations.htm
(Florida Bureau of Financial Investigations) Online Fraud & Abuse Tip Referral Form
http://www.flofr.com/StaticPages/documents/OnlineFraudTipForm2.pdf
Here are some other agency contacts:
NATIONAL WHITE COLLAR CRIME CENTER (NW3C) http://www.nw3c.org/Home
Phone: (804) 273-NW3C
Email:
[email protected]
FBI “Contact us” page -- http://www.fbi.gov/contact-us
FBI Tips and Public Leads submission form https://tips.fbi.gov/
“Please use this website to report suspected terrorism or criminal activity. Your information will be reviewed promptly by an FBI special agent or a professional staff member. Due to the high volume of information that we receive, we are unable to reply to every submission; however, we appreciate the information that you have provided.”
[NOTE: As far as I’m personally concerned, the behavior of these companies IS a form of domestic terrorism, although the FBI may not.]
It also occurs to me that, particularly on the GreenDot/Prepaid card “payments,” since they are apparently difficult to trace, I seriously doubt they are reporting these funds on their income taxes === tax evasion. (That’s the way they finally got Al Capone!) The IRS has forms for reporting suspected evasion, and even a reward form you can complete for if you help them catch the folks!
http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/How-Do-You-Rep ... aud-Activity%3F (I’m 99% sure it’s the Form 3949-A that you’ll want to complete if you’ve been swindled by these folks.) It looks like Form 211 is to claim a reward!
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf -- Form 3949-A
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f211.pdf -- Reward form
I personally don’t care WHICH branch of the government goes after these people, as long as THEY get REAL FEDERAL ARREST WARRANTS out on them!! So, if you’ve been taken in by these folks, besides filing with the above, don’t forget the IRS! (You KNOW they like going after money!!!)
It may not help, but it certainly wouldn’t hurt to fill the mailboxes at the White House with letters about these folks. If the President wants to get involved with courts and everyday peoples’ lives, then he needs to get involved in THIS!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact -- to the right side of the page, there are links for leaving online comments, writing a letter, or calling the White House.
I'd suggest giving a list of time, date, phone number, and anyone's name you were given on these calls...EVEN if you didn't answer or it went to VM.
--------------------------------------------------COMPANY NAMES & INFO--------------------------------------------------------
GOODMAN AND STERN, LLC
Goodman and Stern LLC -- http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... /Goodman/Page12
Articles of Organization for Florida Limited Liability Company -- http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... er=L12000043155
2013 Annual report -- http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... &formatType=PDF
Goodman and Stern have a license as consumer collection agency in Florida
https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/SearchLicensingRecords/Search.aspx )
License info: https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/Searc ... 702&licDesc=CCA
http://www.bbb.org/central-florida/business-r ... ndo-fl-90168391 --, they have a F rating with the BBB . Read their responses to complaints and you'll understand why!
If you go to this site and click on "View additional phone numbers," the drop down will reveal:
"Additional Phone Numbers
(888) 779-7118
(888) 591-3948
(877) 588-7426" ****************
For
Goodman and Stern LLC
(888) 314-5992
View Additional Phone Numbers
7751 Kingspointe Pkwy Ste 107, Orlando, FL 32819-6501
Send email to Goodman and Stern LLC
http://www.goodmanstern.com
When you go to their website, you'll see they did, indeed, remove any phone/address, etc. from the site (IF there ever was any).
Scambook -- http://www.scambook.com/company/view/95428/Goodman-Stern-and-Associates
FTC previously went after another company name (no idea if it was these, but sure acted the same):
http://getoutofdebt.org/31596/ftc-goes-after- ... process-servers
Goodman and Stern Associates -- http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/ficidet.exe?act ... um=G12000035195
Ficitious name registration -- http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/30943953.pdf
GSA Management -- http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/ficidet.exe?act ... um=G13000019672
Application for Registration of Fictitious name -- http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/20097452.pdf -- Owners Goodman and Stern, LLC
Goodman and Stern, LLC dba Recovery Services/GSA Management -- https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/Searc ... 702&licDesc=CCA
Consumer Collection Agency…original license 4/23/12…approval status 12/12/12 …expiration date 12/31/13 … 7751 Kingspointe Parkway Ste 107, Orlando, FL 32819
https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/SearchLicensingRecords/Search.aspx -- shows that Recovery Services/GSA Management Is the only approved and active CCA in Orlando, FL with “Recovery Services” in the name.
directly connects GSA Recovery, GSA Management to same PO address
----- http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-786-233-6742 -- Megan replies to KJHWILL --6 Jul 2013
GSA Management
PO Box 593563
Orlando, FL 32859
Fax 888 371 9229
This is the information they gave me when I demanded the contact info for their compliance department
Scambook complaint … by a 63yo retiree … These people don’t have ANY respect for ANYone -- http://www.scambook.com/report/view/253397/Recovery-Services-Complaint-253397-for-$600.00
GSA Recovery -- http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/ficidet.exe?act ... um=G13000019672 -- Reg #G13000025241, filed 3/13/13…expiration 12/31/2018…Multiple counties … Owner: Goodman and Stern, LLC
Application for Registration of Fictitious name -- http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/40659354.pdf
http://www.gsarecovery.com/# Toll Free: 1-888-983-3011
TollFree: 1-888-983-3011
Fax: 1-888-906-3083
Mailing Address:
GSA Recovery
P.O. Box 593563
Orlando, FL 32856-3563
© Copyright 2013
GSA Recovery
Caller: Goodman and Stern LLC, aka GSA Recovery, aka GSA Management Orlando, FL
Also going by:
EIESNBURG, WHITMAN & ASSOCIATES LLC (Should be Eisenburg, but is spelled EIESN on Articles of Organization) -- -- L12000083285. FEI/EIN 45-5578652 – ACTIVE – effective 6/25/12
http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... %20Nathan/Page1 -- Reg Agent & MGRM: Nathan P Dixon…principal address: 7751 Kingspointe Parkway 106, Orlando, FL 32819
Consumer Collection Agency License search – EISENBURG, WHITMAN & ASSOCIATES License CCA9902836, approved 9/13/12, expires 12/31/2013
--http://www.bbb.org/central-florida/business-r ... ndo-fl-90197044 --
Eisenburg, Whitman, and Associates
Phone: (407) 802-3206 Fax: (407) 674-2518 7751 Kingspointe Pkwy Ste 106, Orlando, FL 32819-6501Send email to Eisenburg, Whitman, and Associateshttp://www.eisenburgwhitmancca.com
== C+
On a scale of A+ to FReason for RatingBBB Ratings System Overview
WEB PAGE: http://www.eisenburgwhitmancca.com/contact-us -- states they have an “A+” rating with the BBB
Eisenburg, Whitman, & Associates
Phone: (888) 211-9377
Fax: (888) 608-4906
Email:
[email protected]
Consumer Collection Agency
License #: CCA9902836
Hours of Operation
Mon, Wed, Fri: 10am-6pm EST
Tue, Thur: 10am-8pm EST
Sat: Closed
Sun: Closed
Address:
7751 Kingspointe Parkway
Suite 106, Orlando, FL 32819
AND: [updated with this info 8/7/13]
RUBIN AND WEIZMANN, LLC … Florida LLC document #L12000111927, active status 8/25/12, principal address:
8810 Commodity circle, Suite 02, Orlando, FL 32819 …. Registered Agent & MGR: Rick Simmons (same address)
----http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... man%20LLC/Page1
--http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... man%20LLC/Page1
Consumer Collection Agency license CCA9902847, approved status 12/21/12, license expires 12/31/13 … (same address as above) https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/SearchLicensingRecords/Search.aspx
https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/Searc ... 847&licDesc=CCA
CCA License TERMINATED effective 8/8/2013 https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/Searc ... 847&licDesc=CCA
Rubin and Weizman, LLC.
(888) 980-8166 8810 Commodity Cir Ste 2, Orlando, FL 32819-9065
http://www.bbb.org/central-florida/business-r ... ndo-fl-90173181
== F
On a scale of A+ to FReason for RatingBBB Ratings System Overview
SUGGESTIONS (again, I am NOT an attorney and am NOT attempting to dispense legal advice. These are my PERSONAL suggestions)
1-IF you decide to answer one of their MANY calls from about 50 different telephone numbers (no, I’m not exaggerating), give them NO INFORMATION. In fact, YOU MAKE THEM ANSWER QUESTIONS, and if they don’t, hang up on them! I don’t know anything about spoofing/masking numbers, but there have been comments that they are VOIP’ing the majority of the numbers they’re calling from. I do not doubt this, as a person said the number showing on her phone was that of the local police department.
2-Keep a running log of the date, time, telephone number, person calling and note of conversation to file with your complaints. (Or, try to record the call, BUT they usually hang up when they’re told they’re being recorded. ROFLOL, now how many LEGITIMATE collection agencies would do that? NONE that I’ve ever heard!
3-Look up your state’s Statute of Limitations on debts that can be pursued in court (that you can still be sued for). It seems to vary from 3-15years.
4-DO NOT allow them to intimidate or frighten you. These idiots have even called the numbers attorneys, police officers, etc. with this scam. Intelligent, they are NOT.
USUAL PLOYS:
1-call friends, neighbors, relatives, employers, and you trying to intimidate you into paying JUST to make the calls stop (but, from looking online, they don’t stop…they just demand more). – Ask these folks to also keep a log of the calls, give them this internet page to check. Ask them to do a search for ANY of these company names. They’ll soon realize it that these people are nothing but SCAMMERS.
2-“…have important legal documents (or summons) to deliver, will you be home ---(day) from 8:30 to 4:30 to accept it?”
3-“There’s a warrant out for your arrest UNLESS you send us $xxx TODAY” -- they seem to prefer asking for the “Green Dot” prepaid card and want you to call back with the numbers on back … harder to trace where to $ goes, apparently.
COMPANY NAMES:
Goodman and Stern LLC, aka GSA Recovery, aka GSA Management Orlando, FL … AND/OR … EIESNBURG, WHITMAN & ASSOCIATES LLC, Rubin and Weizman, LLC.
TYPE OF CALL:
SCAM AND/OR EXTORTION BY A DISREPUTABLE LICENSED COLLECTION AGENCY
By the way, in case you haven’t seen it, complaining DOES help!
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Debt-collect ... qz/-/index.html
Debt collection agency busted in Orlando
Federal investigation results in arrests, search warrants
Published On: Mar 11 2013 12:20:18 PM EDT Updated On: Mar 01 2013 07:12:52 PM EST