Lady who called, and answered - asked for someone by the last name of Patton (First name, Steve, Steven, or Stephen?!). I said I didn't know him, and she said she'd add my # to their Do Not Call list.
They called asking for my brother. Supposedly there is complaint against him that he needs to clear up in 2 hours. He needs to call 888-419-1407 (Nationwide Services). If it's that urgent then call him you damn scammers!!
HLS as shown in debbie entry dated 6 Jun 2017 above most likely stands for Howard Logistics Service.
Looks like just another Riverside County CA, mall-rat, kitchen-table debt collector.
No real information given out on their website. ICANN/Whois has no real information on the domain either.
Something called Walker and Sons is often mentioned as a CID along with Howard Logistics Services.
Sometimes using a CID of "Howard Logistics Services".
http://www.walker-sons.net/Contact-Us.html (Not Working)
Walker & Sons
Contact Us: 866-898-9934
Has an address of:
19510 Van Buren Blvd
Riverside CA 92508
Which is a postal annex. In a mall, of course.
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This is also the address of this group mentioned by BBB:
(888) 980-8267
T&H Financial Solutions, Inc.
19510 Van Buren Blvd # F3-382
Riverside, CA 92508-9457
Additional Phone Numbers
(951) 343-9200
BBB File Opened: 08/25/2014
Business Incorporated: 01/04/2012 in CA
Type of Entity
Corporation
Business Management
Mr. Toby Eklund
Business Category
Collection Agencies
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In any event,
Just because someone on the phone calling you says you owe a debt does not mean you actually owe it.
If a voice on the telephone claims you owe a debt:
1. Demand the person give you his or her name, company name, and address
2. Demand a debt validation letter by US mail. E-mail no good.
3. Do not pay the collection agent or anyone else a dime until the debt is validated
Of course they won’t do this, no scammer ever will, so simply ignore them and block their calls.
If they are bothering you, report them:
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0149-debt-collection (Threatening civil proceedings with no intent to follow through, or threatening criminal process in order to collect a civil debt is a violation of the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.) The same goes for endless telephone harassment
Also contact your local attorney general
Note that the US Supreme Court in the Case of HENSON ET AL. v. SANTANDER CONSUMER USA INC., has recently ruled that the provisions of the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act do not apply if the creditor owns the debt in question. As a practical matter this probably won't effect the kinds of scam debt collectors who often show up on 800notes. The scam collectors don't give you any information about themselves so it is impossible to know whether or not they in fact "own" the debt in question. Most do not send debt validation letters and many often say they are collecting for someone else. So, make the complaint anyway if they are bothering you. Let the FTC sort it out.
If they continue to bother you, and you know you do not owe any money, tell them that you know this is a debt scam and that you are making a complaint to the police for extortion. Once you get a copy of the police report and they call you again , just read out the file number and the name of the PD or Sheriff’s office involved. Tell them you’ll be glad to send a copy to them at whatever address the jack***es are working out of now.
You'll probably have to yell at them and talk over them. Tell 'em no scammy debt collector is going to push you around.
You have to get tuff with these people because, being akin to thugs, brute force is (metaphorically speaking). the only thing they understand.
Lady who called, and answered - asked for someone by the last name of Patton (First name, Steve, Steven, or Stephen?!). I said I didn't know him, and she said she'd add my # to their Do Not Call list.