Here is the information on the jerks who keep calling...scam artists....
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Common Sense Group
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Phone: (407) 831-8002Fax: (407) 831-4101View Additional Phone Numbers2180 W State Road 434 Ste 6120, Longwood, FL 32779-5013 Send email to Common Sense Grouphttp://www.mycommonsensegroup.comView Additional Web Addresses
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Contact Information
Principal: Mr. Lee Siler (President)Customer Contact: Mr Bill Keeven Ms. Dee Dee Albertson (General Manager)Ms. Amy Hanson (COO)
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Siler Wealth Management - 2180 W State Road 434 Ste 6116, Longwood, FL
Comprehensive Debt Advisors LLC - 705 W. State Road 434, Ste. D, Longwood, FL Same T.O.B -
Next I got transfered to another company, Common Sense Group (but on my credit card statement it shows SFG). That should of been my first clue that something was fishy that the names were different. I was assigned to Alex, she took all my information and would not call me back for months. I finally got a manager, DeeDee who was extremly helpful and agreed that the BOA couldn't be worked without my wife who would not agree to do this. My refund was approved by her and verified I never received the DIY kit too. Been calling for 5 weeks and they put me to her voice mail, but I recently found out from Thomas Schwartz she's been gone for over a month. His response was you got a DIY kit, enjoy!
"Ann Marie" is also working today (Saturday), although she knows that "Thomas" (whom has a voice-mail greeting saying he is Thomas Schwartz after you reach him at ext. 512) is not in today. To be clear, the cold-call ("Kelly at Card Services") I received from a spoofed number was transferred to "Ann Marie", and then on to Thomas, before he offered to hang up (saying the call was on "one of their marketing lines") and call me from his legitimate phone number (1 (844) 658-7439 x512). I left a message for Thomas, the man that threatened me with a lawsuit that I was defaming the company he works for by calling him (not the company) a "scammer". Thomas justified the FCC Do Not Call Registry violation by saying that the wholly fictitious details of 'Richard "Dick" Butter' are "public record" (which he used when threatening to "sue" me by repeating the false address to say he knew where I lived), I think he needs to be educated about how it operates from the FCC.
I've also detailed this information on the (252) 685-9865 phone number thread, as that was the originating call. Yesterday I received a robo-call with the "Kelly from Card Services" message, and apparently got deeper in their system without trying to validate the false credit card number (I used the contact number of my USAA card, and they typically prompt for more security information) I supplied. The most critical portion is that I was transferred to a location (with hard details) from that initial call, showing their interaction to how the call originated.
"April" was the initial live-person, from there I was transferred to "Gendro", and then on to "James Taylor" ("badge number 1858, and a "licensed financial adviser"). From there I was transferred to "Carol" (with the "Verification Department"), whom provided this company information:
"Madison and Company" (Madison is the daughter of Lee Siler, whom is the registered owner for all of the associated domains)
1-844-658-7439
From that detail, here is the domain: mandcosolutions.com ("Carol" stated that the $695 charge to my credit card would show up under "Madison and Company", and advised me to tell my bank that it was "Ok" if they saw the charge as being outside the United States)
I was then transferred to "Ann Marie", and then on to "Thomas", whom would be my "Coach". "Thomas", whom I have since learned is Thomas Schwartz (at extension 512 of their toll-free number 844 658-7439) immediately offered to call me back, saying that we were talking on "one of the marketing numbers". He and "Ann Marie" announce their company as "The Common Sense Group" (silerfg.com), although it is the same address and suite number for entities ran by Lee Siler under other names:
2180 West State Road 434
Suite 6138
Longwood, FL 32779
There are a few different toll-free numbers to that location, "Ann Marie" even answered today, and was able to forward me to the extension for "Thomas" (she said the extension was 512 when I prompted, but that he was "out of the office" today, which makes sense). He announces his name as "Thomas Schwartz", and I left a message for him to call me back (since he threatened me with a "lawsuit" for defaming the company he worked for [I did not, I called him a "scammer" when he conferenced me with a USAA receptionist], and defended the initial contact with me violating the DNCR). These entities (based on Thomas' reaction) are clearly aware of the operation, and I think it is a very good lead to pursue.
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This phone number 301 944 0468 is been calling us for the last few days, about 4-5 times per day using a sexually explicit swearing and vulgar threats. Careful, the guy might actually be an identity thief.