Possibly this group, long history of debt scamming on 800notes.
http://www.mmgassociates.com/
Michael, Michael, Green, and Associates LLC
Main
1.844.434.8908
Fax
1.877.926.7003
____________________________
According to records of the Secretary of State of N.C.:
Corporation Names
Name Name Type
Legal NC Corporate Name MICHAEL, MICHAEL, GREEN & ASSOCIATES, LLC
Limited Liability Company Information
SOSID: 1268131
Status: Current-Active
Effective Date: 7/10/2012
Citizenship: DOMESTIC
State of Inc.: NC
Duration: PERPETUAL
Annual Report Status: CURRENT
Registered Agent
Agent Name: MICHAEL, MONCRIEF
Office Address: 8105 OLD CONCORD RD, SUITE 144
NEWELL NC 28126-1007
Mailing Address: 8105 OLD CONCORD RD, SUITE 144
NEWELL NC 28126-1007
Principal Office
Office Address: 8105 OLD CONCORD RD, SUITE 144
NEWELL NC 28126-1007
Mailing Address: 8105 OLD CONCORD RD, SUITE 144
NEWELL NC 28126-1007
Officers/Company Officials
Title: MANAGING MEMBER
Name: MONCRIEF MICHAEL
Business Address: 8105 OLD CONCORD RD, SUITE 144
NEWELL NC 28126
___________________________________
BBB:
This Business is not BBB Accredited
Michael Michael Green & Assoc.
Phone: (704) 206-1322
Fax: (877) 926-7003
View Additional Phone Numbers
PO Box 144, Newell, NC 28126-0144
http://www.mmgassociates.com
BBB® Non-Accredited A- Rating
On a scale of A+ to F
- See more at: http://www.bbb.org/charlotte/business-reviews ... h.f0gJ9MLW.dpuf
MICHAEL MICHAEL GREEN & ASSOC.
Posted in: http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-280-9185
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-855-252-8513
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-406-205-0416
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-844-383-8831
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-844-531-9290
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-496-2373
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-844-734-3609
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-406-205-1473
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-515-200-7211
Their web page gives no physical address: http://www.mmgassociates.com/#!contact/c3kh
BBB gives them an F rating with 32 complaints and an alert-“BBB files indicate that this business has a pattern of complaints concerning the billing or collections issues area. Specifically, complaints are alleging improper collections practices.
and also lists a PO box in North Carolina: http://www.bbb.org/charlotte/business-reviews ... ewell-nc-310792
Bizapedia has them as being in business for 2 years and 6 months: http://www.bizapedia.com/nc/MICHAEL-MICHAEL-GREEN-ASSOCIATES-LLC.html
North Carolina Department of State Information with a real address for them:
________________________________________
Name Name Type
MICHAEL, MICHAEL, GREEN & ASSOCIATES, LLC LEGAL
Limited Liability Company Information
________________________________________
SOSID: 1268131
Status: Current-Active
Effective Date: 7/10/2012
Citizenship: DOMESTIC
State of Inc.: NC
Duration: PERPETUAL
Annual Report Status: CURRENT
Office Address: 8105 OLD CONCORD RD, SUITE 144
NEWELL NC 28126-1007
Mailing Address: 8105 OLD CONCORD RD, SUITE 144
NEWELL NC 28126-1007
Principal Office
________________________________________
Office Address: 8105 OLD CONCORD RD, SUITE 144
NEWELL NC 28126-1007
Mailing Address: 8105 OLD CONCORD RD, SUITE 144
NEWELL NC 28126-1007
Officers/Company Officials
________________________________________
Title: MANAGING MEMBER
Name: MONCRIEF MICHAEL
Business Address: 8105 OLD CONCORD RD, SUITE 144
NEWELL NC 28126
Some other complaints and another phone number that they use:
http://michael-michael-green.pissedconsumer.com/
http://www.scamcallfighters.com/scam-call-8553677674-Posing-as-Michael-Michael-Greene-and-Associates-Want-me-to-pay--1800---Extortion-Scam-11330.html
Per Tamianth:
The BBB page has been updated also:
Now has a street address:
Michael Michael Green & Associates, LLC
BBB files indicate that this business has a pattern of complaints concerning the billing or collections issues area. Specifically, complaints are alleging improper collections practices.
On February 19, 2015, Michael Michael Green & Associates, LLC was informed of this concern via email and invited to discuss the pattern of complaints and determine ways in which the pattern might be alleviated.
On April 3, 2015, Mr. Michael met with BBB staff to discuss issues surrounding the company's patterns of complaints.
Mr. Michael provided the following information:
1. Collectors (term given to employees of company) are instructed to call each telephone number of the debtor (term given to individuals who owe money) only once. The collectors are to leave a message with the following information ONLY: company name, name of debtor they are try to reach, collector's name, collector's telephone number, and request for debtor to contact company.
2. When the debtor calls the company and requests a reason for the message, the company provides information on the debt.
3. If the debt is challenged, the company sends validation of possible debt by fax or mail.
4. If the debtor claims the debt was paid, the company will request validation of payment or will call the company.
5. There is script for the collectors to follow.
6. Most (but not all) calls are recorded up until the time the debtor agrees to provide payment. At that point, the recording ends. The call is then transferred to the financial department. Information regarding payment is not recorded as this is considered confidential.
7. They are aware of the Federal Trade Commission Fair Debt Collection Practices.
8. The company, at one point, expected the collectors to review and understand FTC regulations after which they were expected to take a text.
Moving forwarded, the following was discussed in hopes of alleviating the pattern of complaints:
1. Mr. Michael agreed to provide the BBB with updated company information. This will ensure that BBB has current, complete and accurate information.
2. Mr. Michael stated his plan to begin the recording of all collection calls so as to ensure that proper FTC collection regulations are being followed.
3. Complaints and their allegations of inappropriate collection practices may be negated by supplying the BBB with complete recordings of the conversations in their entirety.
4. As a best practice, Mr. Michael stated his plan to reinstitute the practice of his collectors reading the FTC Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
5. As a best practice, Mr. Michael stated his plan to reinstitute the practice of having his collectors take a test on the FTC Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
6. As a best practice, BBB suggested to Mr. Michael that he have his collectors sign statements indicating their understand of the FTC Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
Follow up telephone and email contacts were made by BBB to Mr. Moncrief on April 15, 2015, April 24, 2015, April 27, 2015, and April 28, 2015. On April 28, 2015, Mr. Moncrief affirmed that his plan to alleviate his pattern of complaints had been put into place.
BBB UPDATE:
On August 28, 2015, complaints filed against this company were reviewed to determine if the plan to alleviate the pattern of complaints was successful.
BBB determined that complaints continue to allege improper collections practices.
BBB UPDATE:
On July 1, 2016, complaints filed against this company were reviewed to determine if the plan to alleviate the pattern of complaints was successful.
BBB determined that complaints continue to allege improper collections practices.
Other complaints:
http://www.scamcallfighters.com/scam-call-8447153421-michael--michael-green---associates-failure-to-appear-in-court-problem-Debt-Collection-21607.html
http://www.scamcallfighters.com/scam-call-8553677674-Posing-as-Michael-Michael-Greene-and-Associates-Want-me-to-pay--1800---Extortion-Scam-11330.html
http://www.scamcallfighters.com/scam-call-8447153421-michael--michael-green---associates-failure-to-appear-in-court-problem-Debt-Collection-21607.html
http://jerkcall.com/1-877-874-4745
https://www.callercenter.com/406-206-9833.html
Federal law (FDCPA) requires them to send you a letter (US MAIL ONLY) within 5 days of their first contact that contains their name, physical address, the creditor’s name, and the amount of the alleged debt. It also must contains “mini-Miranda” telling you that it is an attempt to collect a debt and that all information will be used for those purposes. The one other important thing that this letter must also have in it is that you have a right to dispute the debt within 30 days of receipt of the letter and if you do so, all collection activity must be stopped until the debt is verified.
Read up on your rights here, get template letters to send and also make a complaint at this government site: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/
Also file a complaint with your State Attorney General's office.
List of State AG’s offices: http://consumerfraudreporting.org/stateattorneygenerallist.php